Comments on: Facebook is Stealing Your Hard Earned Rankings http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/ SEO SEM and the world of search marketing Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:40:53 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Claim Your Online Real Estate | HEILBrice - Ideas That Build Business http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-62026 Claim Your Online Real Estate | HEILBrice - Ideas That Build Business Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:56:44 +0000 http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-62026 [...] Recently there have been a few articles written about Facebook and online real estate. This is an important aspect of reputation management as well as for search engine optimization. The idea behind claiming your online real estate is that because the main search engines (Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft) all place a high level of trust with domains such as Facebook they often rank them within the top results of the SERP (search engine results page). By registering on these sites with the keyword that you would like to rank for, and then placing unique content on these pages you can normally get these pages indexed and then subsequently ranked within 24 hours. Most sites even offer you the ability to create a sub folder or sub domain that is off their main domain with the keyword or company name of your choice. Some of the websites that offer online real estate include: [...] [...] Recently there have been a few articles written about Facebook and online real estate. This is an important aspect of reputation management as well as for search engine optimization. The idea behind claiming your online real estate is that because the main search engines (Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft) all place a high level of trust with domains such as Facebook they often rank them within the top results of the SERP (search engine results page). By registering on these sites with the keyword that you would like to rank for, and then placing unique content on these pages you can normally get these pages indexed and then subsequently ranked within 24 hours. Most sites even offer you the ability to create a sub folder or sub domain that is off their main domain with the keyword or company name of your choice. Some of the websites that offer online real estate include: [...]

]]> By: wil http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61880 wil Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:25:29 +0000 http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61880 Chucklyn, good points. I wonder if it would be like wikipedia, where they kinda dominate the serps as well - since Google nor Yahoo has a social network with any real reach I think they'll let this slide for a while. Chucklyn, good points. I wonder if it would be like wikipedia, where they kinda dominate the serps as well – since Google nor Yahoo has a social network with any real reach I think they’ll let this slide for a while.

]]> By: Blackhole SEO And Your Internet Business | Andrew Wee | Blogging | Affiliate Marketing | Social Traffic Generation | Internet Marketing http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61826 Blackhole SEO And Your Internet Business | Andrew Wee | Blogging | Affiliate Marketing | Social Traffic Generation | Internet Marketing Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:27:02 +0000 http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61826 [...] Offsite SEO efforts will be restricted by these blackhole practises and has Seer Interactive’s Wil Reynold’s wondering if Facebook is stealing your hard-earned earnings? [...] [...] Offsite SEO efforts will be restricted by these blackhole practises and has Seer Interactive’s Wil Reynold’s wondering if Facebook is stealing your hard-earned earnings? [...]

]]> By: blog.vortexdna.com » Blog Archive » Finally, some good monetization ideas for Facebook http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61599 blog.vortexdna.com » Blog Archive » Finally, some good monetization ideas for Facebook Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:25:57 +0000 http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61599 [...] The other post, Facebook is Stealing Your Hard-Earned Rankings by Adam at Seer Interactive, is along similar lines: FB has the opportunity to become the Web’s ultimate affiliate marketer, thanks to its amazing progression through the SERP ranks: Searches for Victoria’s Secret, Nike Shoes, Vodka, and Coldplay bring back Facebook as the 28th, 30th, 51st, and 28th result respectively. While ankings 30th isn’t impressive, the fact remains that Facebook isn’t trying and they were also not ranking AT ALL a few days ago. It’s hard to know when Google started indexing because these weren’t on anyone’s radar at position #452, but being at #28 definitely raises a brow to how far these could move. [...] [...] The other post, Facebook is Stealing Your Hard-Earned Rankings by Adam at Seer Interactive, is along similar lines: FB has the opportunity to become the Web’s ultimate affiliate marketer, thanks to its amazing progression through the SERP ranks: Searches for Victoria’s Secret, Nike Shoes, Vodka, and Coldplay bring back Facebook as the 28th, 30th, 51st, and 28th result respectively. While ankings 30th isn’t impressive, the fact remains that Facebook isn’t trying and they were also not ranking AT ALL a few days ago. It’s hard to know when Google started indexing because these weren’t on anyone’s radar at position #452, but being at #28 definitely raises a brow to how far these could move. [...]

]]> By: Adam http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61564 Adam Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:23:03 +0000 http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61564 Good points to bring up Chucklyn. We've seen the search gods step in and change things before, I don't think this is any different. Could future ranking depend on the type of facebook listing, whether it's a fan site, group, event? I have seen much more relevant information on Fan sites. The Nike Shoes site that is ranking well does not have nearly the content and info compared to the Victoria's Secret or Coldplay fan sites. Good points to bring up Chucklyn. We’ve seen the search gods step in and change things before, I don’t think this is any different. Could future ranking depend on the type of facebook listing, whether it’s a fan site, group, event? I have seen much more relevant information on Fan sites. The Nike Shoes site that is ranking well does not have nearly the content and info compared to the Victoria’s Secret or Coldplay fan sites.

]]> By: Chucklyn http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61500 Chucklyn Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:49:54 +0000 http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61500 Hey SEERs - great piece! But I think perhaps we're all forgetting one important point: We're talking about bad mamma-jammas like Yahoo & Google here! If Facebook's results truly start dominating SERPs then I have full faith that the Search Gods will alter the Almighty Algorithms accordingly. I'm not discounting Facebook's potential as the NKOTB Affiliate Marketing Megalopolis should this trend continue. After all, Aff Mktg is not my bag. But I do think it's worth considering that the SERPs don't let much of anything dominate the rankings. Facebook as result #1? Perhaps. Facebook as the entire first page? I think not. And thank goodness. I'll purchase my wife's unmentionables directly - not via ANY Facebook page, thank you very much! Hey SEERs – great piece!

But I think perhaps we’re all forgetting one important point:
We’re talking about bad mamma-jammas like Yahoo & Google here!

If Facebook’s results truly start dominating SERPs then I have full faith that the Search Gods will alter the Almighty Algorithms accordingly.

I’m not discounting Facebook’s potential as the NKOTB Affiliate Marketing Megalopolis should this trend continue. After all, Aff Mktg is not my bag.

But I do think it’s worth considering that the SERPs don’t let much of anything dominate the rankings.

Facebook as result #1? Perhaps. Facebook as the entire first page? I think not.

And thank goodness. I’ll purchase my wife’s unmentionables directly – not via ANY Facebook page, thank you very much!

]]> By: Sari http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61495 Sari Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:10:27 +0000 http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61495 Is it possible to have a group that is not "no follow" or does it have to be a fan site to be followed and effect the search results ranking? Is it possible to have a group that is not “no follow” or does it have to be a fan site to be followed and effect the search results ranking?

]]> By: Adam http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61478 Adam Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:12:35 +0000 http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61478 In terms of groups and profile links, they are all nofollowed. It looks like some application links are followed, so while not the focus of the article, good clarification. Are you seeing followed links anywhere else? In terms of groups and profile links, they are all nofollowed. It looks like some application links are followed, so while not the focus of the article, good clarification. Are you seeing followed links anywhere else?

]]> By: wil http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61474 wil Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:03:01 +0000 http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61474 Clint, the fact that all links are NOT no followed has very little to do with the value of this post. You know the theme of this post is not about the value of followed-no followed links. But about how Facebook could become an affiliate as a way to earn revenue. While I (this is Wil speaking, not Adam the author) welcome comments on our blog, I really think that your tone and comment is kinda ass-holeish. The right way to go about correcting someone is saying, hey buddy the links are followed in certain parts, like here, here, and here. In that way you help us in he same way we put stuff on our blog to try to help everyone. The post is NOT about the link value of facebook links, if it was then I would REALLY feel like we screwed up, and we do sometimes. So we put something out there to try to get people thinking about how facebook pages getting indexed could impact our landscape and you take it as an opportunity to leave snide remarks with NO intent to correct us and help us and our little community. It is how our industry is built, people helping one another. This stuff comes back around - next time you have a bad day, and you just wonder why this is happening to you. Just keep in mind that your karma is in the crapper and you probably deserve it. Next time you want to make yourself feel better by smacking someone who is trying to help, please find somewhere else to do it. I will not respond, this blogs intent is to help, and I think overall we do a decent job of that, we love it when people correct us, but how you do something matters, and this was just a low class way of doing it. Clint, the fact that all links are NOT no followed has very little to do with the value of this post.

You know the theme of this post is not about the value of followed-no followed links. But about how Facebook could become an affiliate as a way to earn revenue.

While I (this is Wil speaking, not Adam the author) welcome comments on our blog, I really think that your tone and comment is kinda ass-holeish.

The right way to go about correcting someone is saying, hey buddy the links are followed in certain parts, like here, here, and here.

In that way you help us in he same way we put stuff on our blog to try to help everyone.

The post is NOT about the link value of facebook links, if it was then I would REALLY feel like we screwed up, and we do sometimes.

So we put something out there to try to get people thinking about how facebook pages getting indexed could impact our landscape and you take it as an opportunity to leave snide remarks with NO intent to correct us and help us and our little community.

It is how our industry is built, people helping one another.

This stuff comes back around – next time you have a bad day, and you just wonder why this is happening to you. Just keep in mind that your karma is in the crapper and you probably deserve it. Next time you want to make yourself feel better by smacking someone who is trying to help, please find somewhere else to do it.

I will not respond, this blogs intent is to help, and I think overall we do a decent job of that, we love it when people correct us, but how you do something matters, and this was just a low class way of doing it.

]]> By: Clint Dixon http://www.seerinteractive.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61473 Clint Dixon Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:44:06 +0000 http://www.thinkseer.com/blog/facebook-is-stealing-your-hard-earned-rankings/2008/09/12/#comment-61473 So sorry but not all links are no followed from Facebook. Might want to research your facts before publishing. You can be sued for inaccuracies in print. Just like any newspaper or magazine! So sorry but not all links are no followed from Facebook.

Might want to research your facts before publishing. You can be sued for inaccuracies in print. Just like any newspaper or magazine!

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