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  • http://seerinteractive.com Bonnie Schwartz

    Minutes after posting this, I just got word from my Yahoo rep that my account will be credited back a few thousand dollars for these fraudulent clicks.

  • http://www.searchenginesmarketer.com Mark Kennedy

    Nice post, Bonnie. I’ve noticed the same thing for one of my clients and had to go through the same process. I wish they had a feature where you could opt out of the search partners like you can do on Google.

    “Yet, for clients with limited budgets I may look to Bing before Yahoo when expanding.” I totally agree with that statement since I feel the quality has been better with MSN/Bing.

  • http://seerinteractive.com Bonnie

    @Mark Thanks for the comment. I agree Yahoo definitely needs the feature where you can opt out of search partners. At least you now have the ability to exclude placements, which is a step in the right direction.

  • http://www.seerinteractive.com Crystal

    Nice post Bonnie!

    The new Network Distribution on Yahoo launching on the 19th may hopefully help alleviate some of the headaches we all face now!

    Mark – your wish has come true!!

  • http://seerinteractive.com Bonnie Schwartz

    @Mark Kennedy It looks like our prayers have been answered! My Yahoo rep just informed me that on 1/19 we will have the following Targeting options on Yahoo

    1) Entire Network-includes Yahoo! Search and Yahoo! Partners

    2) Yahoo! Search-includes all Yahoo! O&O properties and co-branded sites

    3) Yahoo! Partners-includes all Yahoo! Partners

  • http://www.searchenginesmarketer.com Mark Kennedy

    Wow! Maybe I should have wished for a million dollars instead. Who knew this blog was a genie lamp :)

    Kidding aside, that’s great news and I can’t wait to try it out.

  • Angela

    Yahoo now officially has the option to opt out of search partners and only use yahoo search.. its under campaign settings for each campaign, under network distributions. But not all their search partners are bad.. I get better traffic from yahoo with partners turned on, then i do from google and their partners.

  • http://seerinteractive.com Bonnie Schwartz

    Thanks Angela! I agree, I definitely do not think you should automatically default to exclude all search partners. I think you should only do so, if you find that collectively these partner do not convert or do so less cost effectively than search itself. Also, you may find that excluding individual placements is a better bet.

  • http://www.imprl.com David T

    I have read some posts on here – one from “Angela” states that there is a way to opt-out of the Yahoo Partner Network – this is ABSOLUTELY FALSE! There is no way to separate our pure Yahoo search traffic from the Yahoo Partner network – I have found that most of the Yahoo partners are GPT sites – all the leads we get from these partner sites are completely 100% bogus!

    This started happening in Dec / Jan, 2010 and now i must consider dropping Yahoo PPC altogether – its just all spammy traffic!!

  • http://seerinteractive.com Bonnie Schwartz

    @David T: Thanks for your comment. I have also noticed lately that the quality of these partners is pretty awful. The positive news is that you can opt out of the search partners as Angela said.

    You have to do this at the campaign level.

    There is some more detail on this below:

    http://www.ysmblog.com/blog/2010/01/19/you%E2%80%99re-in-control/

  • Angela

    Hi David

    Yes you really can opt out of search partners.. just look around. It’s under campaign settings and then “Network distributions” I wouldn’t lie! lol ,.. I use it for a few campaigns. Just simple uncheck the box for “search partners”
    Also as a tip I noticed that one of their biggest search partners “aroundme.com” seemed to be getting a large portion of my impressions which turned into a large amount of clicks, which generated NO more conversions that normal. So beware of that site, I blocked them in my search partner list.
    the best thing is: run a report for every campaign and see where you ads are appearing on the search network and take note of the conversions from each site.. also take note of how many impressions VS clicks you are getting by clicking the CTR column and looking at the lowest CTR’s… block the domains that have very high impressions and low clicks. It brings down your CTR if you do not block them, and then you will have higher cost per click in the total campaign.

    Dont forget , late summer MSN adcenter and Yahoo ad center and merging into one and we will have to learn a whole new system.. so dont put to much effort into learning the current Yahoo! , as we will no longer need it come late summer or early fall.

  • http://seerinteractive.com Bonnie

    @Angela Good point on not spending too much time learning the current Yahoo! But Definitely still necessary to scour the ad reports in the mean time for red flags. I just got another credit for a completely different account that I referenced in this post for over 5K for what Yahoo referred to as “Partner Implementation Fraud’” – Whatever that means. I had to report the suspicious behavior, which was very troubling to me. 5K + of click fraud is not pocket change. Come on Yahoo!

  • http://www.marketing-that-delivers.com/ @dlukauskas

    @dlukauskas

    I saw the same domain in my clients Analytics account, although their robot works better than others that I’ve seen before coming from the Yahoo sponsored search, but what gave this one out was “Browser: 100% IE”

    Thanks for the post!

  • http://www.b2blog.com Dave J.

    Bonnie, I’ve just posted my ‘experience’ with this problem. I just paused the account. Six clicks from yahoo.com in two weeks isn’t worth dealing with the morally bankrupt.

    http://www.b2blog.com/2010/07/omg-yahoo-search-ppc-is-a-rip-off.html

  • http://seerinteractive.com Bonnie

    @Dave Let’s hope that after Bing-Hoo they have higher standards for partners.!

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